He Said. She Said.
A weekly, unfiltered conversation on the most important — and divisive — cultural issues of our time. Starting with men and boys. How can we be part of the solution rather than part of the problem?
Thursdays, 2:00 -3:00 PM Pacific Time
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He Said, She Said with Mitch & Joe
A weekly, unfiltered conversation about the most important — and often divisive — cultural issues of our time, and how we can be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
For the next few weeks — and maybe beyond — we’re focusing on Men and Boys.
We’ve all heard it: men and boys are struggling. In many cases, men and women are reacting differently to the flood of news, commentary, and cultural concern about boys and men.
💠 The data is undeniable
💠 Parents are concerned
💠 Partners are worried
💠 Books are being written about it
But are the solutions in these books enough? Joe and I don’t think so. So let’s talk about it.
No slides. No strict agenda. Just two humans who care deeply about this topic — and each other — bringing decades of experience facilitating conversations across people who don’t always see eye to eye. Two parents, raising both daughters and sons.
Who’s welcome: All genders. All perspectives. Bring a friend, your teenager, a colleague, your spouse or partner — or just yourself.
What to expect:
- Real talk, no pretense
- Nuanced insights & depth, mixed with pragmatism.
- An inclusive, respectful conversation
Cost: Free
Come as you are. Bring what you’ve got. Walk away with something useful.
The session will be hosted and led by Mitch Shepard (www.humininc.com) & Joe Gerstandt (www.joegerstandt.com)
Mitch Shepard is a behavioral scientist, organizational development consultant, systems thinker, culture antagonist, inclusion specialist, mother of a son & daughter, and executive coach to some of today’s most influential leaders. With over 20 years of experience, Mitch has partnered with teams and executives across tech, biotech, finance, entertainment, and global retail to help her clients lead with greater effectiveness, impact, and humanity.
Joe Gerstandt is a farm-raised Marine Corps veteran turned acclaimed keynote speaker, author, father of a son & daughter, and DEI strategist whose mission is to help organizations turn “difference” into strength. He works with everyone from Fortune 100 companies to grassroots nonprofits — blending research, storytelling, and real-world experience to reshape workplace culture and spark lasting inclusion.